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Re: Tuning your BvM/PEAK/Dif/Bape/ILYY ect
« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2010, 06:20:49 AM »
When you tighten the yoyo halves won't that get the axle to the end of its thread?  Because then you say to tighten it with the hex key after you tighten the yoyo all the way and that is a little confusing. ???   I want to do this to my tactic, but would it help with a bad vibe that's in grinds as well as on the string?
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Re: Tuning your BvM/PEAK/Dif/Bape/ILYY ect
« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2010, 01:27:18 PM »
The tactic is a bit different... the sides are open and you can see the end of the axle...

just use a touch of locktite or PTFE stick the axle in and close the yoyo, look on the outside of it at the axle so see if its in the center, if not, open and turn a bit to line it up... if its still not smooth it might need tweaking a turn or 2 one way or another to get the sweet spot.

If its still the same after trying  it might be a bent axle or yoyo
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Re: Tuning your BvM/PEAK/Dif/Bape/ILYY ect
« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2010, 12:12:49 PM »
Thanks a lot.  I managed to tune most of the vibe out.  It feels a lot better. ;D
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Re: Tuning your BvM/PEAK/Dif/Bape/ILYY ect
« Reply #43 on: March 27, 2010, 12:06:53 AM »
…a bit of confusion arose about this subject. Why exactly does this method work? Is it: (1) that the weight is distributed amongst the two halves, (2) that the plumbers tape keeps the axle from jiggling whilst spinning, (3) all of the above?

Also, does it matter if the yo-yo has a bearing seat?

I apologize if the answers to these questions are dreadfully obvious.
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Re: Tuning your BvM/PEAK/Dif/Bape/ILYY ect
« Reply #44 on: March 27, 2010, 08:13:18 AM »
To quote Kyo on the subject the answer would be neither.

Quote from: Kyo
"Centering" the axle has NOTHING to do with removing a vibration.

Making an axle fit the threads more tightly, sure.. adjusting the axle placement? yes.. however it has nothing to do with being in the 'center'

What you really doing is adjusting how the halves line up with each other.. by placing the axle at various points you can set where each half stops in relation to the other.. that's what is changing.

Simply put, a centered axle will not make the yo-yo smoother. A tighter fitting axle and changing the orientation of the halves can make the yo-yo smoother.

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Re: Tuning your BvM/PEAK/Dif/Bape/ILYY ect
« Reply #45 on: March 27, 2010, 01:19:26 PM »
I knew this whole thing sounded fishy. I know for a fact that my axle isn't centered on any of my throws, but they're still smooth.

Okay, so here's what I'm getting so far from you guys. If you adjust your axle:

  • …the axle stays where you want it. I've had problems getting an axle out because the hex-socket side is stuck in one of the halves. It'd be nice for this to be predictable. I haven't had a problem with the yo-yo coming lose and parts flying all over the place, but adjustments like these would solve that problem.
  • …you "align" the two halves—that must be the "sweet spot" everyone is talking about. I'm not sure if this is a problem if the halves are machined with high precision, but I'm imagining that any inconsistency in the weight distribution will cause a fast wobble (or a vibe). I recently read on these forums that the average speed for a yo-yo is around 5000 RPM. I imagine you'd have to have a lot of precision / consistency to not have vibe at those speeds.

I still have a few questions, though. Can an off-centered axle cause the yo-yo to lean or tilt (because of the slight weight imbalance)? It seems that an off-center axle could cause this problem, but not so much the vibe problem.
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Re: Tuning your BvM/PEAK/Dif/Bape/ILYY ect
« Reply #46 on: March 28, 2010, 11:18:34 PM »
All I know is on the yoyos I’ve centred the axle on
(then adjusted to find the sweet spot)
have come out smoother than before

Same goes for other peoples yoyos I’ve tuned…

I’m not gonna quote all the people in this thread…. But it worked for them too

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Re: Tuning your BvM/PEAK/Dif/Bape/ILYY ect
« Reply #47 on: March 29, 2010, 02:34:19 AM »
You guys just care much about your "SMOOOTH" yoyos...you dont need tape at you exle...you dont need to have your bearing centered.
Just go and have fun with your yoyos!
look at the OXY....axle halh weight a lot more then non axle half....also the bearing isnt even centered.
With KK that carlo use now even string isnt centered....
and you think that oxy have some wobbles or vibe?No ;)
So dont care and go and practise your throw and make some nasty video or make a freestyle to yours next contest ;)
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Re: Tuning your BvM/PEAK/Dif/Bape/ILYY ect
« Reply #48 on: March 29, 2010, 05:49:25 AM »
All I know is on the yoyos I’ve centred the axle on
(then adjusted to find the sweet spot)...


So you center the axle then un-center the axle. My point here is this: a centered axle will not necessarily make a yo-yo smooth, but it is a good starting point to start at before actually tuning the yo-yo.

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Re: Tuning your BvM/PEAK/Dif/Bape/ILYY ect
« Reply #49 on: March 29, 2010, 08:10:49 PM »
and you think that oxy have some wobbles or vibe?No ;)

…what about people with yoyos that vibe real bad—even with a good throw? (:

I just like to know how things work. Nothin wrong with that, right?
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Re: Tuning your BvM/PEAK/Dif/Bape/ILYY ect
« Reply #50 on: June 18, 2010, 07:44:46 PM »
so, would this work on my vibey PGM?
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Re: Tuning your BvM/PEAK/Dif/Bape/ILYY ect
« Reply #51 on: June 18, 2010, 09:58:51 PM »
Sos dude i have absolutely no idea

I've never had a PGM

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Re: Tuning your BvM/PEAK/Dif/Bape/ILYY ect
« Reply #52 on: December 29, 2010, 12:44:50 PM »
will this do anything to an 09 888?
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Re: Tuning your BvM/PEAK/Dif/Bape/ILYY ect
« Reply #53 on: December 29, 2010, 01:23:51 PM »
It may.

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Re: Tuning your BvM/PEAK/Dif/Bape/ILYY ect
« Reply #54 on: September 24, 2011, 10:33:10 PM »
i think smoothnes is only a big deal to me because i think its supposed to be because otger ppl make it that way but realy wen its flyig through the air and ur hands r moving all around u cant feel vibe anyways

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Re: Tuning your BvM/PEAK/Dif/Bape/ILYY ect
« Reply #55 on: September 24, 2011, 10:37:33 PM »
Also, does it matter if the yo-yo has a bearing seat?

im 99% sure all yoyos with bearigs have a bearing seat that holds the bearing away from the surface of the bearing well otherwise the bearing would lock up and ud have a looper (or im about to feel dumb when theres 4 replies saying "you're wrong")

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Re: Tuning your BvM/PEAK/Dif/Bape/ILYY ect
« Reply #56 on: September 24, 2011, 11:16:20 PM »
Also, does it matter if the yo-yo has a bearing seat?

im 99% sure all yoyos with bearigs have a bearing seat that holds the bearing away from the surface of the bearing well otherwise the bearing would lock up and ud have a looper (or im about to feel dumb when theres 4 replies saying "you're wrong")
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See Anti-Yo, Dif-e-Yo, Luchador... For a long time people thought it was a good idea to use a fat axle that the bearing just sat around. Lol.
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Re: Tuning your BvM/PEAK/Dif/Bape/ILYY ect
« Reply #57 on: September 25, 2011, 11:29:44 AM »
will this work on yyr?
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Re: Tuning your BvM/PEAK/Dif/Bape/ILYY ect
« Reply #58 on: September 25, 2011, 12:07:28 PM »
TBH idk... I've never had an yyr..

I don't see why not though
(and it won't hurt it to try)

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Re: Tuning your BvM/PEAK/Dif/Bape/ILYY ect
« Reply #59 on: September 25, 2011, 12:24:14 PM »
I don't have any teflon tape, so I kind of pseudo-tuned my short axle YYR using tiny bits of paper towel. Drop a tiny (real tiny) piece in the axle hole, tighten it on with an allen wrench. Test. repeat.
It takes a while to get the system down, but it's been working pretty well. They only have like 2-3 rotations of spare space using the short axle, so the teflon tape method might be tough.
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