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Title: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: kyo on February 28, 2008, 04:03:56 PM
Ok, I get this question A LOT.. and a while back I finally just wrote a guide for it.. I finally figured I should share with everyone else.

The question of course is "What do I need, why, and how much does it cost?"

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The following is based on the Taig setup, however you can use it as a reference guide for any company/brand etc. as far as what you need. This is the basics, yes, there is a lot more.. but it's a starting point since it's a fairly overwhelming thing to figure out on your own.

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The following is a list of 'necessary' or useful tools, as found here.. Please note that the prices listed do not include the 10% discount you get on all lathe and accessory items (no discount on motors). This list includes ONLY the absolutely essential parts.

All of these parts came from www.cartertools.com/catalog.html (http://www.cartertools.com/catalog.html) and I highly recommend buying here. Nick, who runs the store has absolutely perfect service and is extremely helpful.

Update: Prices updated as of 2/23/11
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Essential Parts:

L1017 - $191.50 - Micro Lathe II basic unit, assembled. I suggest this because without a familiarity with lathes, the unassembled unit will be more difficult to set up.

1021W - $106.40 - Marathon Motor. This is an awesome motor that can take a lot of abuse. However, almost any motor will due if you care to find one on your own.. they can be found in things like scrap yards, treadmills, etc. and you can find them cheaper.. but this one is great, and you don't have to look for it

1162 - $25.80 - Pulley's and belt. Quite simply, they are what connect the motor to the lathe. Specify that you want the long belt.. as there are 2 different lengths depending on how you set up the lathe.

1023 - $7.70 - Mounting Board. The easiest way to set up the lathe.. it has all the holes pre-drilled all you have to do is follow the setup instructions. You can make your own, but for $7.50 it will save you a lot of trouble.

1022 - $5.25 - Mounting Brackets.. what you attach the motor to.

1050 - $64.10 - 3-Jaw Self Centering Chuck - The workhorse of the lathe, it's what holds all the parts. This is a good general purpose chuck, with soft aluminum jaws that can be shaped to hold whatever odd yo-yo part you need. I use this chuck for probably 85% of my work.

1095 - $28.75 - 6 Piece Bit set. These are the 'basic' lathe tools. 6 different shapes for various cuts and work.. a good starting point for learning. Ideally, you will eventually learn to grind your own bits as needed, but these are a good start.

1310 - $7.50 - easily the most useful tool I have. Allows you to easily remove the chuck.. very simple, but amazingly useful since the slot is so thin.

Total : $437.00
Total after applicable 10% discounts - $403.94

You can save quite a bit on the motor if you find one elsewhere. Pretty much any similar motor with a 1/2" shaft will work.
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Useful Extras:

1150 - $39.50 - Drilling Tailstock. This allows you to use the lathe as a drill by mounting a fixed bit onto the bed of the lathe, and spinning the part. (exactly the opposite of a normal drill). This lets you drill holes in parts, tap threads for screws, etc. Very useful.

1051 - $9.00 - Additional blank jaws for the chuck. This gives you a greater flexibility in what you can hold in the lathe. You can cut each set to hold various things. I have probably 9 or 10 sets of these at this point for all the odd things I've had to work on.. all cut to different specifications. These are an add-on and not absolutely necessary, but cheap and nice to have. I'd pick up at least one extra set.

1096 (3x) - $1.95 x 3 = 5.85 - Unground bit blanks. These allow you to grind bits to any shape you need for all kinds of cuts. You just need a bench grinder, easily found at any hardware store for around $30. I personally have 20-30 of these at this point for different cutting operations, but just a few will give you somewhere to start.

1173 - $31.10 - Cut off tool. VERY useful. The most rigid way to cut off parts.. often used for cutting off rings of yo-yos and parting off sections of material.

1090 - $37.80 - Jacob's drill chuck - industrial quality. These are like the drill chucks you find in, well, drills. They mount on the drilling tailstock to hold bits and taps. You can go cheaper and get the 1092, but I prefer this one as it is -really- durable and strong. I find that with the smaller chuck, when you use small bits and taps (common for yo-yos) they tend to flex more and cause problems.

Total: $123.25
Total after 10% discount: $110.93

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Non-Taig Items that are great for yo-yo modding.

Threaded rod in various thread sizes. The common ones for yo-yos are 4M (duncan and some Kyo yo-yos), #6 (yoyojam), #8 (many metal yo-yos), and 1/4" (many metal yo-yos) You can often find these at hardware stores, or Fastenal stores (www.fastenal.com (http://www.fastenal.com)) if there is one near you.. or of course online.

Add to that nuts in the appropriate sizes, and some washers, and you can build a "draw-bar" to hold yo-yos. EXTREMELY useful for modding, because holding the curved side of a yo-yo is nearly impossible without building something to thread the axle into.

Basically the threaded rod passes through the headstock of the lathe, into or through the yo-yo and is screwed together on either end.. this holds the part securely against the chuck, and you can tighten the chuck to center it.

And there you have it.. all you ever needed to know.

Kyle
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: afunky9 on February 28, 2008, 04:19:29 PM
Wow....

Awesome!!!

Shall it be stickied.. I think so!!!  O0
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: xcon203 on February 28, 2008, 04:26:24 PM
thanks so much for this. i have been wondering what to get as far as lathes go. O0
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: LUCCaA.K.A. on February 28, 2008, 05:55:35 PM
thankyou
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: icthus on February 28, 2008, 08:38:36 PM
thankyou
Dang. I need a new lathe now. I guess mine is too old.
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: Colin on February 29, 2008, 05:45:04 AM
Oh snap. I want a lathe now.
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: redgrape on February 29, 2008, 08:35:44 AM
many thanks to Kyle for all my questions! this is a really awesome guide. personally i would recommend ordering a second belt, but since i had no clue what i was doing when i set mine up i totally take the blame for snapping it :-)
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: LUCCaA.K.A. on February 29, 2008, 12:37:37 PM
so what else would i have to buy if i got the mini lathe and what disadvantages does it have (it is a mini lathe) can it cut metal and stuff
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: Blue on February 29, 2008, 02:18:10 PM
great and instructive post! A+]



EDIT:   Actually I am curious if I could get pics or a diagram of how the draw-bar actually works, especially with a yo yo which the axle doesn't go straight through (like a metal)

I think I understand, but not fully, because the check has rounded edges and that doesn't seem like it'd hold a threaded rod too well.
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: kyo on February 29, 2008, 06:20:10 PM
The drawbar is not held by the chuck.

The drawbar is basically a way to apply tension to hold the yoyo against the chuck, then the chuck hits the curves of the yoyo and centers it gently.

For yoyos where it doesn't pass through, you simply thread the rod directly into the yoyo just like a super long axle.

[--||<-0--]

where:
[ = nut on one end of the drawbar
---- = threaded rod
|| = headstock
< = chuck
0 = yoyo

the last --] is removed from the equation if you can thread directly into the yoyo.

Kyle
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: robtsou on February 29, 2008, 06:27:02 PM
Drawbar setup.

(http://home.earthlink.net/~robtsou/images/Drawbar%201.jpg)

(http://home.earthlink.net/~robtsou/images/Drawbar%202.jpg)

(http://home.earthlink.net/~robtsou/images/Drawbar%203.jpg)

Rob
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: Blue on February 29, 2008, 06:46:41 PM
Thanks guys! I also did a search and found the answer in another thread by you guys.

The Diagram and pictures made me understand that completely now though.




@Robtsou-  What kind of belt is that, it looks crazy! Also, are those custom shaped chuck Jaws, like Kyo was explaining in his original post?

Do you guys know of any Radius tools that fit on the Taig? When I get mine I'd like to make some custom drawer pulls, and cabinet knobs for my parents new bathroom/kitchen. and would like to do more than half ball ends.  That being said I have seen the 1210  on the website Kyo posted, but  they don't seem too keen on the tool themselves, and the link is broken, and I can't see the redirect while I'm here at work (blocked)

also just going into it I don't see making a homemade one myself working all too well.
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: LUCCaA.K.A. on February 29, 2008, 06:47:23 PM
so what else would i have to buy if i got the mini lathe and what disadvantages does it have (it is a mini lathe) can it cut metal and stuff
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: kyo on February 29, 2008, 07:11:52 PM
Dear Rob: screw you and your fancy pictures. :)

Rob's belt is ridiculous.

Yes those are the custom shaped jaws.. they can be made to any size grip you'd like, and any shape/step/etc depending on what you need.

I have never attempted looking for a radius tool for the taig so I can't be much help there.

Lucca: did you actually read that huge post above? You know, the one that describes everything you need? Yes, it can cut metal and stuff, it's a metal lathe.

Kyle
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: Blue on February 29, 2008, 07:30:38 PM
Are you talking about the MicroLathe II, which is the kit that KYO posted?

If so, then I am pretty sure it will cut metal, wood, plastic etc.  and with precision since it is controlled by mechanics and not by hand.
as far as what else to buy, Kyo noted pretty much everything important, including non-neccessity items, and non-directly lathe based items..

Edit: Beaten to the punch by Kyle, but I spent so much time between phone calls at work to type that that I didn't want to abandon it.
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: robtsou on February 29, 2008, 07:54:37 PM
Yes my belt is ridiculous.  It's a link belt. Since I use standard pulleys with a variable speed motor, I can use that belt with whatever pulley combination I need and adjust it's length when I need to.  On the other hand, that belt is never going to break and it supposedly reduces vibration.

Those jaws are custom cut for my preferences.

I also do not have a radius tool but plan on making one for myself sometime in the future.

Rob
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: Ricerocket on February 29, 2008, 08:21:13 PM
HERE (http://www.cartertools.com/catalog.html) is a good picture catalog with most of the accessories that Taig makes.  The website has alot of pictures and descriptions of other people's setups.

I bought my Taig from Hobby Lobby: http://www.hobby-lobby.com/taig.htm (http://www.hobby-lobby.com/taig.htm) but had them price match Nature Coast Hobby HERE (http://www.naturecoast.com/hobby/taig.htm).  Nature Coast has a better price, but their customer service wasn't the greatest.  Also Hobby Lobby not only matches, but then cuts 10% more off the difference.
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: kyo on February 29, 2008, 08:42:12 PM
You linked the exact same page that is in the guide.

Taig dealers are supposedly not allowed to go more than 10% below list prices.. if you notice, all of the things I listed I mention there is a 10% discount on that.

Pricing compared to nature coast, there is a $30 difference in price between carter and them for the same package.. and the basic lathe is cheaper at carter. I'd go to nick purely for the service and help he can provide.. I'd gladly pay more for the help he's provided to me and many others. This of course is assuming that nature coast is selling the marathon motor and not subbing for something far cheaper.

Kyle
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: Ricerocket on February 29, 2008, 08:52:08 PM
You linked the exact same page that is in the guide.

Whoops!  So I did.   Sorry Kyle.  The cartertools.com site is a great resource for all things Taig.
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: Blue on February 29, 2008, 10:33:37 PM
You linked the exact same page that is in the guide.

Taig dealers are supposedly not allowed to go more than 10% below list prices.. if you notice, all of the things I listed I mention there is a 10% discount on that.

Pricing compared to nature coast, there is a $30 difference in price between carter and them for the same package.. and the basic lathe is cheaper at carter. I'd go to nick purely for the service and help he can provide.. I'd gladly pay more for the help he's provided to me and many others. This of course is assuming that nature coast is selling the marathon motor and not subbing for something far cheaper.

Kyle

When I buy mine I'm going to Carter Tools, for the simple fact that on his Ordering Info page he says "I will always be available for technical help via. e-mail whether you ordered from me or bought it elsewhere." and that says A LOT about the kind of Person he is and care/interest he has in the product.  I work Sales at an Online Music Store and we are told to turn down Tech Support if they didn't buy from us (even if we legitimately know the answer) I usually help anyway.
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: robtsou on March 01, 2008, 12:40:33 PM
When I buy mine I'm going to Carter Tools, for the simple fact that on his Ordering Info page he says "I will always be available for technical help via. e-mail whether you ordered from me or bought it elsewhere." and that says A LOT about the kind of Person he is and care/interest he has in the product.  I work Sales at an Online Music Store and we are told to turn down Tech Support if they didn't buy from us (even if we legitimately know the answer) I usually help anyway.

Nick Carter is the man when it comes to Taig tools.  When I was getting set up originally, he took the time to actually talk to me about what I was doing.  Add to that, his consistent involvement in the Taig community (his website and Yahoo group) where he's always available for help.  If I had to put it into yoyo terms, he's the Takeshi of the Taig community.

Rob
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: Onis on March 02, 2008, 04:45:04 AM
For any one in the UK looking to buy one there called Peatol in the UK here is a link http://www.peatolmac.talktalk.net/
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide (PLEASE STICKY SO I CAN STOP LINKING IT)
Post by: kyo on August 01, 2009, 07:13:06 PM
I link this thread all the time.. can we please get it as a sticky? It's silly for me to have to tell people to go search for it..

Kyle
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide (PLEASE STICKY SO I CAN STOP LINKING IT)
Post by: icthus on August 01, 2009, 07:35:00 PM
I feel the same about another thread. The modder thread. I think BOTH should be sitckied. At least the........yo did it right off the bat!
Seems like the moderators don't do anything anymore. Just sit back and watch. Tisk Tisk!
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide (PLEASE STICKY SO I CAN STOP LINKING IT)
Post by: mrcnja on August 01, 2009, 08:06:12 PM
I was thinking the same thing. When I made the "List of trustworthy modders" for that forum I was expecting some delay and a couple people asking for a sticky but no sooner had I made it than it was stickied.
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide (PLEASE STICKY SO I CAN STOP LINKING IT)
Post by: icthus on August 01, 2009, 08:12:31 PM
They care about their users I guess.
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide (PLEASE STICKY SO I CAN STOP LINKING IT)
Post by: kyo on August 06, 2009, 02:20:46 PM
I'm bumping this every time somebody asks me from now on, until it gets stickied :)

bump.

Kyle
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide (PLEASE STICKY SO I CAN STOP LINKING IT)
Post by: icthus on August 07, 2009, 04:39:39 AM
Well I was just asked so I figured why not bump it too.
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide (PLEASE STICKY SO I CAN STOP LINKING IT)
Post by: icthus on August 08, 2009, 02:00:52 PM
Well I bumped my thread that I think should be a sticky so I'm gonna bump this one too.
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: THE wood dwarf on August 10, 2009, 07:59:06 PM
Stickied!

Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: Bradley on August 10, 2009, 08:13:45 PM
Woot bonus points for the newly appointed mod!  Thanks woody  O0
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: icthus on August 12, 2009, 07:02:38 AM
I'm lost. I thought this was stickied. What the heck happened? This shouyld have been stickied the day the thread was made!
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: mrcnja on August 12, 2009, 07:40:17 AM
It was stickied then it wasn't but it is now here:
http://www.yoyonation.com/talk/index.php/topic,57526.0.html (http://www.yoyonation.com/talk/index.php/topic,57526.0.html)

I think it's a nice way to do it, really cleans things up a bit.
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: icthus on August 12, 2009, 08:57:29 AM
The problem if they don't see the title of lathe buying guide then no one will know its in there.
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: THE wood dwarf on August 12, 2009, 09:04:04 AM
Any one who is intending to start a topic to ask the question "what lathe should i buy"

should likely read the phrase "please read before starting a new topic"
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: icthus on August 12, 2009, 09:22:30 AM
You are absolutely correct but who actually reads that? 2 out of 200?


I'm just givin you a hard time.
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: xfredericox on August 13, 2009, 02:02:10 AM
i told in another post already that i think it is a good idea.

Just clarify the title a bit. "Must read" doesnt help getting us to read it. I know, silly, but its true.

Use "Modding rules and extensive list of very helpful topics - If you read this you will have a *yoyo* on each finger by the end of the week" or something in the vein of that.

People will be getting the hang of it soon,i guess, but its always hard to adapt to something new...
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: icthus on August 13, 2009, 05:21:32 AM
Now that is a good title!!
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: mrcnja on August 13, 2009, 07:55:40 AM
It sounds like I should read it.
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: THE wood dwarf on August 13, 2009, 02:49:17 PM
i told in another post already that i think it is a good idea.

Just clarify the title a bit. "Must read" doesnt help getting us to read it. I know, silly, but its true.

Use "Modding rules and extensive list of very helpful topics - If you read this you will have a yoyo on each finger by the end of the week" or something in the vein of that.

People will be getting the hang of it soon,i guess, but its always hard to adapt to something new...

I think its fine as it is now, if it emerges as a problem that people aren't reading it I will change it


I edited your above post, lets keep it family friendly fellas
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: xfredericox on August 13, 2009, 04:52:16 PM
I edited your above post, lets keep it family friendly fellas
haha it wasn't tht bad, was it?

but its fine like this, too  O0
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: Chilly Penguin on September 13, 2009, 02:05:24 AM
Love this guide. I know this is sorta necro...

I wonder if all of these parts you have to assemble on your own?!?!
that's gonna be a challenge... lol
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: mrcnja on September 13, 2009, 05:58:25 AM
If you buy the disassembled one then yes. If you buy the assembled one still yes, you have to put all your accessories and what-not on it yourself.
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: Chilly Penguin on September 13, 2009, 06:24:09 AM
so let's say i buy the stuff that kyle typed in the first post.
i have to assemble all that when i get it by myself right? are there instructions?
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: mrcnja on September 13, 2009, 06:26:23 AM
Yes, there are instructions.
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: icthus on September 13, 2009, 08:54:23 AM
No they want you to guess at it and maybe do it wrong so you will hurt yourself.   lol
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: kyo on September 13, 2009, 08:54:00 PM
Buy pre-assembled if you aren't 100% comfortable with lathes. It does come with instructions, but you'll feel better not having to worry about it.

The only bonus is you are forced to learn how things work, but you can figure that out easy enough.

The accessories are do it yourself.. but it's very simple stuff. Google lathe basics for instructional type stuff, or just shoot me a message.

Kyle
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: Chilly Penguin on September 14, 2009, 01:51:12 AM
Buy pre-assembled if you aren't 100% comfortable with lathes. It does come with instructions, but you'll feel better not having to worry about it.

The only bonus is you are forced to learn how things work, but you can figure that out easy enough.

The accessories are do it yourself.. but it's very simple stuff. Google lathe basics for instructional type stuff, or just shoot me a message.

Kyle

so you are saying if I buy pre assembled say from the guy, itll be easier. But will I be able to add on the accesories you mentioned in the first post?

thank you for your time.
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: mrcnja on September 14, 2009, 05:22:18 AM
Yes, the disassembled or assembled part is just the basic lathe. You can still put all the accessories on it that you want. 
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: kyo on September 14, 2009, 08:28:41 AM
The assembly is -just- the lathe itself.. you will still have to mount it to a board with the motor, put on the pulley, chuck, etc.. but all of that is very simple.

Kyle
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: justink1025 on May 27, 2010, 10:00:46 PM
NECRO!!!!
Anyway...
For the motor would these work?

1. http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=1/2+shaft+motor&hl=en&show=dd&cid=14561880218464704579&ei=fk3_S7DMD4Hu2ATrv8XWAQ&sa=title&ved=0CAcQ8wIwADge#p (http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=1/2+shaft+motor&hl=en&show=dd&cid=14561880218464704579&ei=fk3_S7DMD4Hu2ATrv8XWAQ&sa=title&ved=0CAcQ8wIwADge#p)

2. http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=1/2+shaft+motor&hl=en&show=dd&cid=5567437568581748632&ei=1k3_S-KlEaeO2QS2lonYAQ&sa=title&ved=0CA8Q8wIwAjgK#p (http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=1/2+shaft+motor&hl=en&show=dd&cid=5567437568581748632&ei=1k3_S-KlEaeO2QS2lonYAQ&sa=title&ved=0CA8Q8wIwAjgK#p)

3. http://www.jcwhitney.com/heavy-duty-electric-windshield-wiper-motors/p2002019.jcwx?skuId=235665&TID=8014524FT4&utm_source=Google_Product_Search&utm_medium=CSE&utm_content=product-894050&zmam=15972153&zmas=21&zmac=141&zmap=894050 (http://www.jcwhitney.com/heavy-duty-electric-windshield-wiper-motors/p2002019.jcwx?skuId=235665&TID=8014524FT4&utm_source=Google_Product_Search&utm_medium=CSE&utm_content=product-894050&zmam=15972153&zmas=21&zmac=141&zmap=894050)
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: icthus on May 28, 2010, 08:56:33 AM
If you buy the Taig, it will come with the motor.
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: kyo on May 28, 2010, 12:41:40 PM
Icthus.. you should read the orignal post some time :)

Taig does not come with a motor.. but you can buy one from the dealer. The problem is that they are over priced.. so if you want, you can track one down elsewhere for much less.

justin, I believe the first two will work.

Kyle
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: icthus on May 28, 2010, 04:15:49 PM
haha I though if you bought one complete then it would come with one. Misread.
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: Cyclontzy on May 28, 2010, 04:16:51 PM
I wish lol, motor was 90 something ha
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: justink1025 on May 28, 2010, 08:50:11 PM
justin, I believe the first two will work.

Kyle
Thank you kyo!
But would they last long and be able to do does 90 dollar motor does?
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: kyo on June 01, 2010, 01:26:10 PM
I can't speak to the quality of other motors.. but there isn't anything particular special about the marathon motor.. so I don't see why others wouldn't last as long.

Kyle
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: QuantumYo on June 01, 2010, 01:57:56 PM
What if you got something like this? http://www.harborfreight.com/7-inch-x-10-inch-precision-mini-lathe-93212.html (http://www.harborfreight.com/7-inch-x-10-inch-precision-mini-lathe-93212.html)
What tools would you need extra?

Is the list that you composed for making yoyos or for modding them?

Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: kyo on June 02, 2010, 12:05:26 AM
What if you got something like this? http://www.harborfreight.com/7-inch-x-10-inch-precision-mini-lathe-93212.html (http://www.harborfreight.com/7-inch-x-10-inch-precision-mini-lathe-93212.html)
What tools would you need extra?

Is the list that you composed for making yoyos or for modding them?


I do -not- recommend the harbor freight lathes.. or any of the other chinese lathes that you'll find in various places (they're all the same lathe). They don't use standard parts, which makes them hard to expand on. The quality is 'ok' but you really should strip them down and assemble/tune them yourself to get the best quality out of them. They're cheap for a reason..

That said, I know several modders that use them.. but they aren't something I recommend, especially as a first lathe.

The list I gave is really for modding.. but it's quite flexible.. there isn't anything special you need to 'make' a yo-yo aside from lots of skill and patience.

Kyle
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: QuantumYo on June 02, 2010, 03:55:08 AM
Also if you were to make a yoyo, would you have to do it by hand?
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: mastermakoko on June 23, 2010, 05:47:24 AM
anybody got some old lathe that still works?
send it to me !!!!
i really need a lathe but its so DAMN expensive and hard to find in my country...  :'( :'( :'( :'(

PM ME  O0
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: justink1025 on June 27, 2010, 09:42:21 PM
anybody got some old lathe that still works?
send it to me !!!!
i really need a lathe but its so DAMN expensive and hard to find in my country...  :'( :'( :'( :'(

PM ME  O0
LOL no one is going to send you 300dollar lathe. Especially to another country where shipping fee would be crazy
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: tyler3490 on July 14, 2010, 02:26:30 PM
this really helped me pick what i should get, i placed my order today and cant wait to get the lathe
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: FunTimeYoHap on July 20, 2010, 11:31:42 PM
this really helped me pick what i should get, i placed my order today and cant wait to get the lathe

So, you posted this on July 14 and it's been a week.  Has your package arrived?
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: justink1025 on July 21, 2010, 12:45:32 AM
this really helped me pick what i should get, i placed my order today and cant wait to get the lathe

So, you posted this on July 14 and it's been a week.  Has your package arrived?
lol
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: tyler3490 on July 22, 2010, 12:39:57 PM
this really helped me pick what i should get, i placed my order today and cant wait to get the lathe

So, you posted this on July 14 and it's been a week.  Has your package arrived?
lol should be here today
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: wolfman on March 28, 2011, 04:03:45 PM
The drawbar is not held by the chuck.

The drawbar is basically a way to apply tension to hold the yoyo against the chuck, then the chuck hits the curves of the yoyo and centers it gently.

For yoyos where it doesn't pass through, you simply thread the rod directly into the yoyo just like a super long axle.

Kyle

I don't think there are many wood turners on the boards but...
What would be The best way to secure a yoyo that doesn't have a take apart design?  For example: finishing the side of a one piece wooden that was attached to the stock. 
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: kyo on October 09, 2011, 05:26:26 PM
You would finish the sides BEFORE cutting the gap all the way down, that way you can just chuck it like normal, finish, then cut the gap down to axle sized last. Otherwise, the axle section becomes a big weak point and you'll likely snap it trying to finish the other side.

If the axle is already done, you're.. um.. kinda screwed really. Unless you happen to have very deep jaws, I can't think of any way to do it offhand.

Kyle
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: theironspud on February 07, 2012, 05:38:56 AM
I just sent a good portion of my tax refund to Nick Carter.  Thank you for this post Kyle- I've been wanting a lathe for years, and wouldn't have a clue where to start if not for this thread.

And my wife finds it hillarious that I spent last night looking at wood online ;).
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: YoYoSpin (the original) on May 01, 2012, 08:11:10 AM
Turning a one-piece (no glue holding the sides and axle together) yo-yo is a great woodturning skill building experience. Dial in here to see lots of design examples: http://www.yoyospin.com/gallery/yoyos/ (http://www.yoyospin.com/gallery/yoyos/)
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: oldedges on May 01, 2012, 12:03:56 PM
Turning a one-piece (no glue holding the sides and axle together) yo-yo is a great woodturning skill building experience. Dial in here to see lots of design examples: http://www.yoyospin.com/gallery/yoyos/ (http://www.yoyospin.com/gallery/yoyos/)
I'm sure this is not the first time you've heard this but that is some Fantastic looking work!! O0
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: karate75milano on May 02, 2012, 05:57:00 AM
Ehm, no.
Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: oldedges on May 02, 2012, 07:08:07 AM
Ehm, no.
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Title: Re: Lathe Buying Guide
Post by: kyo on May 02, 2012, 07:40:57 AM
I just sent a good portion of my tax refund to Nick Carter.  Thank you for this post Kyle- I've been wanting a lathe for years, and wouldn't have a clue where to start if not for this thread.

And my wife finds it hillarious that I spent last night looking at wood online ;).

Oh she thinks it's funny now....

Kyle